One Election Won't Stop US 'Truth Decay'- Obama
The US faces a huge task in reversing a culture of "crazy conspiracy theories" that have exacerbated divides in the country, Barack Obama says.
In a BBC
interview, the former president says the US is more sharply split than even
four years ago, when Donald Trump won the presidency.
And Mr Obama
suggests Joe Biden's victory in the 2020 US election is just the start of
repairing those divisions.
"It'll
take more than one election to reverse those trends," he says.
Tackling a
polarised nation, he argues, cannot be left only to the decisions of
politicians, but also requires both structural change and people listening to
one another - agreeing on a "common set of facts" before arguing what
to do about them.
However he
says he sees "great hope" in the "sophisticated" attitudes
of the next generation, urging young people to "cultivate that cautious
optimism that the world can change" and "to be a part of that
change".
Anger and
resentment between rural and urban America, immigration, injustices like
inequality and "the kinds of crazy conspiracy theories what some have
called truth decay" have been amplified by some US media outlets and
"turbocharged by social media", Mr Obama tells historian David
Olusoga, in an interview for BBC Arts to promote his new memoir.
"We are
very divided right now, certainly more than we were when I first ran for office
in 2007 and won the presidency in 2008," the former president says.
He suggests
that this is, in part, attributable to Mr Trump's willingness to "fan
division because it was good for his politics".
Something
else that has contributed hugely to the issue, Mr Obama says, is the spread of
misinformation online, where "facts don't matter".
"There
are millions of people who subscribed to the notion that Joe Biden is a
socialist, who subscribed to the notion that Hillary Clinton was part of an
evil cabal that was involved in paedophile rings," he says.
The example
he uses here with Ms Clinton relates to a fake theory alleging that
Democratic politicians were running a paedophile ring out of a Washington pizza
restaurant.
"I
think at some point it's going to require a combination of regulation and
standards within industries to get us back to the point where we at least
recognise a common set of facts before we start arguing about what we should do
about those facts."
Mr Obama
says that while many conventional mainstream media outlets have embraced
fact-checking in recent years in an effort to tackle the spread of
misinformation online, it is often not enough because "falsehoods had
already circled the globe by the time truth got out of the gates".
He says
division is also a result of socioeconomic factors such as increasing
inequality and disparities between rural and urban America.
Such issues,
he adds, are "paralleled in the UK and around the world" with
"people feeling as if they're losing a grip on the ladder of economic
advancement and so react and can be persuaded that it's this group's fault or
that group's fault".
Viral
conspiracy theories have been a staple feature of this year's US election and a
more mainstream school of thought during the Trump presidency.
That's
because online disinformation with conspiratorial undertones is no longer
limited to the dark corners of the internet. It's promoted by prominent
figures, with huge followings like those in charge across the world, including
in the White House.
The polarised
world of the internet where everything is a matter of opinion rather than fact,
and we choose our tribe has created a fertile breeding ground for conspiracies
and misinformation. An increasing number of people who use social media to do
their own research come to misleading conclusions - these can be exacerbated by
one-sided coverage of stories by partisan media.
As Barack
Obama points out, these falsehoods or misleading claims - especially when
amplified by the media or public figures prove to be much more popular than any
debunk. The solution may not reside in just presenting the facts as important
as that remains. It's also about understanding why people turn to conspiracies
online and how they were exposed to them repeatedly.
I
frequently speak to victims of online conspiracy theories about the
damage they bring, and the divisions they cause. That has revealed how
difficult and complex this damage is to undo.
Mr Obama,
who made history as America's first black president, says the issue of race has
been "one of the central fault lines in American history our original
sin".
The events
that unfolded over the summer, including the death of George Floyd a black man
who died in police custody and the response to his death from communities not
just in the US but around the world, created moments of both despair and
optimism, he says.
"Despair
that the chronic lingering role of race and bias in our criminal justice system
continues in such a blatant form enormous optimism that you saw an outpouring
of protest activism and interest that far exceeded anything we had seen
previously and was peaceful."
It was
important that the protests were multi racial, he says, adding that the response
was different to that of the killing in 2012 of Trayvon Martin, an unarmed
Florida teenager who was shot dead by neighbourhood watch volunteer George
Zimmerman. Mr Zimmerman was later cleared of the 17 year old's murder in a high
profile criminal case.
Mr Obama
also mentions the fatal shooting in 2014 of 18 year old unarmed black man
Michael Brown, who was shot six times by a white police officer in Ferguson,
Missouri.
He says that
while those incidents inflamed passions across America, stirring up debate over
race and justice, there still appeared to be "resistance among large
portions of the white community to push back against the notion that this was
more than just one incident or a case of bad apples".
"What
you saw this summer was some communities that had a very negligible black
population, folks going out there and saying Black Lives Matter and embracing
the notion that real change has to come."
Mr Obama was
speaking ahead of the release of his new memoir, A Promised Land, which charts
his rise to the US Senate and first term as president. Due for release on 17
November, it is the first of two books covering his time in the White House.
The US faces
a huge task in reversing a culture of "crazy conspiracy theories"
that have exacerbated divides in the country, Barack Obama says.
In a BBC
interview, the former president says the US is more sharply split than even
four years ago, when Donald Trump won the presidency.
And Mr Obama
suggests Joe Biden's victory in the 2020 US election is just the start of
repairing those divisions.
"It'll
take more than one election to reverse those trends," he says.
Tackling a
polarised nation, he argues, cannot be left only to the decisions of
politicians, but also requires both structural change and people listening to
one another - agreeing on a "common set of facts" before arguing what
to do about them.
However he
says he sees "great hope" in the "sophisticated" attitudes
of the next generation, urging young people to "cultivate that cautious
optimism that the world can change" and "to be a part of that
change".
Anger and
resentment between rural and urban America, immigration, injustices like
inequality and "the kinds of crazy conspiracy theories what some have
called truth decay" have been amplified by some US media outlets and
"turbocharged by social media", Mr Obama tells historian David
Olusoga, in an interview for BBC Arts to promote his new memoir.
"We are
very divided right now, certainly more than we were when I first ran for office
in 2007 and won the presidency in 2008," the former president says.
He suggests
that this is, in part, attributable to Mr Trump's willingness to "fan
division because it was good for his politics".
Something
else that has contributed hugely to the issue, Mr Obama says, is the spread of
misinformation online, where "facts don't matter".
"There
are millions of people who subscribed to the notion that Joe Biden is a
socialist, who subscribed to the notion that Hillary Clinton was part of an
evil cabal that was involved in paedophile rings," he says.
The example
he uses here with Ms Clinton relates to a fake theory alleging that
Democratic politicians were running a paedophile ring out of a Washington pizza
restaurant.
"I
think at some point it's going to require a combination of regulation and
standards within industries to get us back to the point where we at least
recognise a common set of facts before we start arguing about what we should do
about those facts."
Mr Obama
says that while many conventional mainstream media outlets have embraced
fact-checking in recent years in an effort to tackle the spread of
misinformation online, it is often not enough because "falsehoods had
already circled the globe by the time truth got out of the gates".
He says
division is also a result of socioeconomic factors such as increasing
inequality and disparities between rural and urban America.
Such issues,
he adds, are "paralleled in the UK and around the world" with
"people feeling as if they're losing a grip on the ladder of economic
advancement and so react and can be persuaded that it's this group's fault or
that group's fault".
Viral
conspiracy theories have been a staple feature of this year's US election and a
more mainstream school of thought during the Trump presidency.
That's
because online disinformation with conspiratorial undertones is no longer
limited to the dark corners of the internet. It's promoted by prominent
figures, with huge followings like those in charge across the world, including
in the White House.
The polarised
world of the internet where everything is a matter of opinion rather than fact,
and we choose our tribe has created a fertile breeding ground for conspiracies
and misinformation. An increasing number of people who use social media to do
their own research come to misleading conclusions - these can be exacerbated by
one-sided coverage of stories by partisan media.
As Barack
Obama points out, these falsehoods or misleading claims - especially when
amplified by the media or public figures prove to be much more popular than any
debunk. The solution may not reside in just presenting the facts as important
as that remains. It's also about understanding why people turn to conspiracies
online and how they were exposed to them repeatedly.
I
frequently speak to victims of online conspiracy theories about the
damage they bring, and the divisions they cause. That has revealed how
difficult and complex this damage is to undo.
Mr Obama,
who made history as America's first black president, says the issue of race has
been "one of the central fault lines in American history our original
sin".
The events
that unfolded over the summer, including the death of George Floyd a black man
who died in police custody and the response to his death from communities not
just in the US but around the world, created moments of both despair and
optimism, he says.
"Despair
that the chronic lingering role of race and bias in our criminal justice system
continues in such a blatant form enormous optimism that you saw an outpouring
of protest activism and interest that far exceeded anything we had seen
previously and was peaceful."
It was
important that the protests were multi racial, he says, adding that the response
was different to that of the killing in 2012 of Trayvon Martin, an unarmed
Florida teenager who was shot dead by neighbourhood watch volunteer George
Zimmerman. Mr Zimmerman was later cleared of the 17 year old's murder in a high
profile criminal case.
Mr Obama
also mentions the fatal shooting in 2014 of 18 year old unarmed black man
Michael Brown, who was shot six times by a white police officer in Ferguson,
Missouri.
He says that
while those incidents inflamed passions across America, stirring up debate over
race and justice, there still appeared to be "resistance among large
portions of the white community to push back against the notion that this was
more than just one incident or a case of bad apples".
"What
you saw this summer was some communities that had a very negligible black
population, folks going out there and saying Black Lives Matter and embracing
the notion that real change has to come."
Mr Obama was
speaking ahead of the release of his new memoir, A Promised Land, which charts
his rise to the US Senate and first term as president. Due for release on 17
November, it is the first of two books covering his time in the White House.
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